#69 Claude Motion, GPT-6 Intelligent UI, Open-source Adobe Killer, OpenAI culture in pieces

dark. Yeah. Yeah, your your your ISO needs boosting just a little bit if if I may say so. I can fix that, but I the camera is far away. So Oh Yeah, I think mine could mine could maybe go up a bit. Oh gosh, behind the scen BTS. That's literally behind the scenes. Uh, well, it was on auto, so let's see how it is now. Oh, that's Oh my god. No way. You just a couple stops. Just a couple stops. Well, it was on auto, so I Oh, I see. Okay. I keep it like Well, suppose it's good to have it on auto, but um you never know. Uh, you never know what the ambient lighting is going to be. Okay. Well, it's it's a bit crazy. And your white balance maybe needs to be sorted, but you know, that's all right. We'll we'll stick with that. Yeah, I keep keep everything on auto because Yeah, but maybe I should fix that. Okay. Well, and let me do a quick sound check. Um, wherever my For some reason, the Instagram popup went out. So I So I have to start that again. Good sound. We're not on We're not live on Instagram yet. So Okay. [sighs] Okay. I need a second to figure that out. Sure. thing. It broke what Instagram does as in we need to request. I hope that it will accept the old one. So now I have to give you the stream key again. Edit. Okay, we can edit. Oh, no, we can't. Okay, remove it. Remove. Add. Okay, cool. Yeah. Nice. Save. Okay. Like that. There we go. Yeah, I'm really warm. I just have a really warm heart. Like what what's up with my like the color correction is insane. The color the automatic white balance. I don't know how to fix that. How do you reset that? Do [snorts] I shine some like really bright orange? Well, you got that on auto. Have you? Yeah. Don't know. Don't know. Well, maybe take a photo. How are you doing? I'm all right. Yeah, I'm I'm good. Um, what's been going Oh, mate. I have been slaying slaying on YouTube this week. I Well, I say off on YouTube. I I mean to say I've recorded so many videos this week. Um, guess kind of a kind of a big announcement from my end. Yeah. Um, I reckon I reckon I'm going all in on YouTube. I reckon I reckon I'm putting down my company. Um, creator. I love I love writing code and I love creating stuff and I I think I'll always do that, but I just don't think I'm a very good business person. I'll try, don't get me wrong. Well, if at a push, but yeah, a slightly better creator. [laughter] Um, yeah, like that that wasn't the reason. That wasn't the reason like why I wasn't like I am, you know, I'm going to the reason was like, you know, things things are picking up, especially from a from a sponsorship perspective and whatever. And I just sort of thought, what if I just went ham on YouTube and just created content because right now it still exists as a hobby. Um, and I kind of do uh videos in amongst outreach, doing the outreach and stuff. And it's just, you know, I don't know what don't know what your situation is with your business and whatever, but like god the outreach is just so tiring. I think I had a few like potential clients out like any kind of outreach, cold, warm, maintaining relationships, all of that stuff. It's just it's just so tiring. Whereas I feel like the YouTube thing is so straightforward and maybe that's straightforward in my head but um it is I wanted to say like man making videos is not easy for majority of people like people watching us on Instagram on YouTube right now like you I don't know if you have tried it or not making videos it's just so difficult like making these lives are significantly easier I would say in terms of um like talking to the camera just that part is significantly easier but if you put a camera down and sit down and try to talk to it it's just so difficult and then editing publishing maint so you have figured it out that's kind of like what I want to say but for most people it is difficult yesterday I had a a warm kind of like um meeting actually inerson meeting with a company. I might build a CRM for them, my second next CRM for a second company. I had a this like call with the with the Web Flow community and Christian showed showed us what he was what he's working on for a client, like insane 3D stuff. And basically the gist of what we talked about was everything is possible now with AI. So it's just like if you do business you go in and you you do everything anything they ask you. But on the content side I think that part is still [snorts] very like humanowned and very difficult for most people to get even started. So, I I think you you have a good opportunity here with YouTube. Yeah, I'm you know, I'm definitely still trying to discover where AI can help. Like I'm trying to on a few videos I've tried to scope it all out with AI and you know, I recorded a video yesterday where it was pretty it was script it was scripted by AI, right? and I recorded it and it just didn't parts were just not making sense to me and I've I've done it I haven't gone as hard as I did on that video and that video isn't out yet but you know when it is maybe people will pick up on it I don't know but [snorts] um that's the first time I've gone hard on it before I've just used it sort of lightly and there were things just weren't making but before this I'm I was trying to think like I'm trying to better myself and I'm trying to use Claude as a as a third person to like help me push the boundaries and learn new things because I I don't Yes, I think I'm um good at it, but I don't think I'm the best. I think I have a lot to learn and I'm just like look trusting Claude or trusting trusting what Claude is saying to help me improve. But [snorts] yeah, yesterday I went all in. I just scoped it all out and scripted it with YouTube. I recorded it and there were just parts that just didn't make sense to me. It was like, but I had to put that back into Claude then and there were hallucinations that took place. It gave me two two intros as an example and reading through it and it's hard really if you don't know anything, you know, people don't know about YouTube and whatever. Um, you know, it it was trying to comprehend it again trying to trust in Claude. I was like, there must be something up here like whatever. And lo and behold, it was like, "Yeah, you're right. Actually, I'm trying to squeeze in two questions and only answering one of them and it just convoluted the whole video." So then, uh, today I recorded a bunch of chunks and edited and chopped a load out because it was like it was trying to answer two questions. It hallucinated. No, it doesn't hallucinate in terms of make anything up because at the end of the day, it's all my ideas. I'm telling it what to do, [snorts] but it's just it picked up on two things I said and kind of ran with the two things I was going on about which convoluted the whole video. So, yes, long story short, there's still a lot of human element, but I I do I do feel like I want to get better and there are ways I can get better. Um, but then I watch other people's and I think you can overoptimize YouTube videos and try and do too much with it when I think what's becoming more interesting right now is the is the human element, not the, you know, retention curves and all the rest of that. I think, you know, people like to potentially hear people waffle. Obviously, you're going to get loads of brain rotted people that click off, but people are wanting to to feel like they're engaging with another human and hanging out with another human. But what what's the word for it? Uh when you just kind of like ramble and talk, it it has a name when you when you just talk to the camera and it's not like you're teaching something. It's it has a yeah it has there's another word for anyway I I saw like this becoming a thing on Instagram. Maybe it is temporary like just people talking to the camera but at the end of the day you want this human connection. I I I think most people don't take that seriously or like they don't notice it. Not that they uh well speaking of like content for [snorts] me it's the short form that is going crazy. I I posted a video on a stupid toggle that I made. It made like 150 160,000 views in in less than 48 hours. And I just uh I didn't even ask specifically in in the video for any I didn't have any CTA. So just in the uh comment and also in the description I said um comment whatever for to to be added to the newsletter and I in less than 48 hours I have like 300 plus emails which is just crazy. I I didn't expected this. So I don't know if these will be buyers but it made me this reassurance and also this like feeling of urgency actually even if you're making something really small if you can communicate it with people enough people will get interested and not everyone is like you know like us going the rabbit hole of something so they might just want somebody who has figured it out and show it to them. So, so maybe I will also double down more on the content plus something. Uh maybe it's a product, it's a community, whatever. Well, we'll get into it, but you know, um what's his name? Jacob uh Coxen saying when there will be no more jobs, you know, we won't be working anymore. So, you know, and going back to one of my decisions to to stop doing the company is like, you know, I don't know how much longer that's going to be for. I think that what I'm offering is is perfectly fine, but I just don't have the reach and I don't have the influence on the work side of things to to really gather the work. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see how it goes. But, yeah, we'll see. Cool. Um, well, yeah. Uh, outside of that, I was going to say, what have you been doing this week? Have you been Have you been building? Have you got anything cool to share? Well, I I've been building flowing like again. Oh, okay. Like the the 10th I just never give up. This time I'm doing it for myself. I'm like having so much fun with it. Um, so I started I don't know if you saw this. I made some stupid toggles. I did them for myself because in the tool here I have both of these toggles stuff might not be working perfectly because I'm still working on it but yeah and I was like I want to make articles on these things and I want to like show them visually how much thought actually I put onto these things. It's not like just a hey one prompt claw do this. It's actually like me directing it and giving it like directions and so on. So yeah, I made these articles and I made literally a video showing how you go from like a jump to a slide to adding motion and you see this is also happening in slow motion. How you add these stuff, how how you add like physics and bounce and all visually, right? And that video blew up like in less than 24 hours. it got like 100 plus thousand views. Uh, and I think people appreciated the amount of, you know, paying attention to details that went into it. And maybe some people were [laughter] a bit too annoyed by too much attention going into [laughter] people get annoyed about absolutely everything. It's just ridiculous. [laughter] people. Some people were like, "But if I touch this, my thumb is um covering the animation." I was like, I don't care. Like I won't I'm just giving so much. That's Yeah, that's another point. And it's like on a this is not for necessarily only touch devices. But it also I wanted to say this has been amazing for me because it sent me down a rabbit hole of trying to I always knew the difference between checkbox and switch. I knew it intuitively. M but now I had to actually sit down and learn it not just intuitively but actually be able to like I could right now I could explain to you perfectly what is the difference between a checkbox a switch and also these toggles with icons which are called segmented controls and they might have more than two uh items in them and it's it's just fascinating on one side and this is what I it's a lovehate with AI relationship on one side you could say well why do I need to learn anything I just give it to AI and it decides but at the same time I'm learning alongside with AI and I'm genuinely having fun by absorbing this information and I feel like if AI does it automatically good like correctly good that that's good but if it doesn't. Now I know I can judge it and I can direct it and I can be articulate about what I'm trying to do, what I'm trying to achieve. So anyway, I'm just putting so much time into this and I want to make this um I I'm trying to wrap it around a product and maybe maybe sell. We'll see. We'll see. There's two things come to mind with what you've just said, right? First one is, you know, the the we probably won't cover it today just cuz maybe it's a little bit out of our wheelhouse, but you know, the the maths um Nobel Prize that just was won by by Open AI um stolen from anthropic whatever. I don't know whether you know the drama about that but ultimately just one quote that I'm going to bring from that is basically you know um and it was from uh a podcast with um who is that black scientist the um he's very uh people love him or hate him really good communicator I know his name is on top of my tongue wh why that actually annoying that I It's really annoying is it I know the name, but I'm gonna say it wrong because just say it because then it will trigger me then. Tyson, um Neil deGrasse Tyson. That's Neil Digress Tyson. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So he said, you know, or it was on his podcast anyway. It was actually his colleague said like you throw something into an AI and then you get the answer back. And that's great. But so many scientific discoveries were made in the journey to to um to to to get to that answer, you know, just like you did to get to the to the right toggle, you learn a load of other stuff. So there is that. And then the second thing I'll say is, you know, I I cooking is a weird one, but I'm just trying to abstract it away. Like I just want to eat, right? I don't care about cooking. I just want to get to the end result. That shouldn't stop people wanting to learn and fall in love with the craft of cooking. It shouldn't convince you that just because there are people out there who just want to eat and they don't care how it happens. Similarly, as as developers, as designers, like, yeah, of course, you can um throw something to an AI and get the results back, but that doesn't like don't make me feel bad for being a nerd about it and not wanting to just throw something to an AI. Like, yeah, you you can throw something into an AI, but then the the the the artisans, the geniuses that come out on top, they're the ones who are going to get nerdy and understand things from a like a core level. Like I I can't emphasize enough how the the loud minority and the the internet in general really poisons our perspective and it almost gaslights us into thinking that we shouldn't do certain things just because we can. It gives voice to the the people that are are so different from you. Yet you you put you give them credence. I think that's the terminology. Give them too much food. So, long story short, go nerdy on the things that you love and just because there's you can get the result really quickly, don't stop digging like get dorky about it. Learn about things. And I've been I've been enjoying a similar sort of thing recently and just really enjoying I said it last week. I've just so I've enjoyed reading and looking at sources and just digging because there will always be the people who use AI as a leverage are always going to be better than those who just straight up use AI and get the result back. Like that's all I can say about that. So yeah, fair fair play. Well, uh, nice words there. Uh, and I fully agree. I I I'm not paying attention to the haters, whatever. I kind of [snorts] like giggle, [clears throat] uh, when I see something like that. Sometimes I try to educate them. I think, uh, the source of all that, all of that is from lack of education because I think with proper education, we are curious beings. And yeah, maybe I have put too much time on this, but I did this for myself. You see it? So, [laughter] if you click on save, you you sometimes lose the stuff that you save on different platforms. But here, I was like, how can I show people where it goes? I'm showing it here and I make it and then I turn it into a component and then I go into a rabbit hole of how does that act how did I actually made it because we talked about it last week. AI does it for you and you have no idea how it's done. So I'm adding these articles visually showing like how it's actually done and it's like you play with it and I think this is just such a just look at this. This is amazing. To me this is where learning should be like understanding this layer for me is a perfect layer to understand and then if you want to go deeper you can always obviously like you can go deeper and you can dive into the code and try to understand the code or whatever and I have all of that as well but yeah that's kind of like answer to your question what have I been doing with my tokens this is aside from the projects that I can't show this. I can I've been having fun with it and you bet all of these components that I'm making I'm these are like things most of them not all of them that I use in other products or I plan to use on other products. So it's kind of like fun to create and then create with this level of details. I I love that. Nice. Um, so trying to think if I have any news, but I think we're probably good to to kick things off, huh? Yeah. So, someone in the comments saying, "Hi, what is this live about?" Uh, well, good timing because we're going to read the intro right now. So, [snorts] this week, Adob is finally dead. This time for real. somebody or a company made the entire Adobe. It It's crazy. I installed Photoshop. Not Photoshop, but like similar to Photoshop. Yeah. And I will show it to you. It's It's literally insane. Uh we will talk about AI safety, and that's kind of like the the theme nowadays. Uh GPT6 intelligent UI came out. We will show you how [laughter] underwhelming that is. and cloud uh claude motion. I'll show you a video I made with Claude which blew my mind and Sam I think you have some stuff to show with the dashboard as well. So that's really cool. All of this in today's episode. This is Command AI. I'm Kavarza. I am Sam and this is a week in AI design and dev. Cool. Uh should we kick things off with AI safety? Yeah, let's go. I'm hoping not to spend too much time on this uh because we've kind of banged this drum for like the last three weeks in a row, but uh David Robertson, OpenAI's safety systems lead, wrote uh the safety reports for major product launches, resigned after three and a half years with a scathing essay on The Atlantic, saying the company's culture is broken and the [snorts] problem goes beyond rules and laws. So again, I'm not going to spend too much time on this one, but this this Robinson just basically talks about um get my notes up here. Like have you ever worked agile or do you know what that is? Or this this iterative development. I think it's I think it's so standard now in in web develop or in app development. Um I I think that you are only going to learn things when you get it out there and and people start using it. Whereas OpenAI, they are so Silicon Valley um that they they're taking this approach to building with AI and he's saying it's it's they're observing the failures in the you know in the real world. Let me share this article. um in the in the real sort of you know in in yeah in the real world that makes sense. Um uh that we are being used as the test dummies basically. Um and he thinks that we should operate with the redundancy and planning of nuclear plants and airports rather than relying on rapid trial and error. So yeah, again like trying to trying to figure out how we should do trying to um trial and error being the the thing that caus that that helps them make the system more robust. Whereas I've been involved in airport stuff and I I've spoken to I've spoken to developers on like my old podcast who wrote software that [snorts] needs to go in space and get this right. They had to write code that had three levels of redundancy. So you have to check and then you have to check the check and they had to write code that had to protect itself against black hole nutrinos because what happens in space a nutrino hits a bit and then it flips and it causes like craziness. They had to write code to protect against black holes. It's crazy. [snorts] But these these people wielding this massive technology are not take not not moving forward with the same approach whatsoever. It's actually crazy. So, this guy David Robinson is talking about all of this sort of stuff. Um, and OpenAI, uh, where are they? They responded basically saying they deny everything because the thing is, yeah. Oh, sorry. You have something to say? No, it's it's just insane. Go on. Um, because then did did you watch this uh interview with Jacob Cox? Just just pieces of it. I pieces of it. Yeah. Yeah. I I'm I'm not sure how to feel about this very Yeah, you you can show it and I will explain what what I've been learning about this. I've been watching stuff around it, not the interview itself. Well, we actually covered his Let me get it up actually. Let me get up. For people who don't know, this guy is the whistleblower who worked at uh Anthropic and prior to that in Open AI and he was like these companies are not responsible and AI will kill us all. And so now there's an interview. This is the tweet that went out that we covered, right? I resigned from Anthropic today. I spent the last three years doing pre-training at both OpenAI and Anthropic. It was actually 4 months at Anthropic. Neither company is acting responsibly. They are racing straight to self-improving super intelligence and gambling with our lives. More thoughts below. So you can you can go and have a look at that and and dig in. But this was an interview that I watched and it's it's actually quite funny. It's a good interview. But to give you a sort of highlevel um overview of it, wherever my notes are. So yeah, three years anthropic, three years open AI, four years anthropic. He thinks obviously models are going to be very very smart uh next year um to a worrying degree. I think we probably could have guessed all that. Uh he mentions that uh anthropic are directly asking the safety concerns inside the organization. Clearly that wasn't happening in open AI, right? That anthropic are saying to themselves, is this right? Is this moral? And all the rest of it. So I guess there's a level of reassurance that at least Anthropic are asking these questions. However, he only lasted 4 months in Anthropic. So clearly they are not doing as good as they should. [cough and clears throat] But a few things I picked up on this. So he believes of a utopia as we said in the intro. He thinks there will be no jobs. There will be no there will be no jobs. Everything will be operated and run by AI and that will be a universal high income that we all earn dividends from the automated work that we all just receive this money. We use this money to buy things and it feeds back into this system and there's this big loop. And the the guy here, let me um try and get a good shot of them both. This dude here, um what's his name? I don't even know his name because it's the first time I've ever watched this show. Um, John Stewart, John Stewart, like he raises some good points about this idea that this all sounds like wonderful, but he he argues that people need purpose. like we need we want to work, we want to do things like we're going to go absolutely nuts if we don't have some sort of work, some sort of um purpose really. Uh and he goes into a lot of this idea that it's a it's a group of billionaire tech bros inside of a bubble deciding what the world wants, right? And it's not their decision. Um it's they think that people don't want to work. And don't get me wrong, we all complain about a Monday morning and this and that that you know we we we do we do struggle with work. There's a lot of people who again a lot of people do derive a lot of meaning, a lot of purpose from their work. So it doesn't their idea that we all just don't want any work and we should strive towards this utopia which they keep dangling in front of us like a carrot. Um that doesn't reflect the real world. um belief, you know, literally you're talking about four or five people deciding the fate of humanity because of their own world beliefs. So um so yeah that was that and then and then um Jacob was saying that China will reach because they spoke about China and how China will uh take over or whatever but he believes that they'll reach a similar sort of ideology of that we we just don't like it's not a good future that they're painting. It sounds utopic utopic is that a word? Yeah. But they will reach a Yeah. And there was interesting actually I I I don't have the brain cells to quite comprehend this but they describe uh China as a corporation not a country which I thought was really interesting and and I guess it makes sense because the government is subsidizing everything that the government puts money into absolutely everything which is probably why they can build technology and things super super cheap but they also don't um if if they can get it done cheaper outside the country than they would prefer the the country prefers to hire outside the c country so that they're I don't even know what their um the natives do but anyway I'm not I'm I'm not smart enough to understand all that but it long story short it's this ongoing discussion around this idea that these these companies are acting very very irresponsibly um and that we're heading into a future that is maybe not um that they're actively scared that they're actually scared of the the future we're heading into. I think uh a lot of it is nonsensical [clears throat] what they are saying to be honest. I feel like uh some of these people are very tunnel visioned and some others like those in the top they have their own ideology but it doesn't always reflect oneonone to the to the world that we are living in. Uh we don't like it's not that it's not up to me, it's not up to them. [clears throat] We genuinely don't have another system beside like this system right now that we have for the for how we are valuing work and h how is how money works, right? We we don't have an alternative system figured out. And it's it's kind of like crazy these people coming uh speaking of like a a tomorrow where nobody works. I yes theoretically I can grasp this but so there are so many open questions like where is this universal income coming from for what? Like do you have to do something or like you just sit and do nothing and and then your goods are being delivered to you, your house being built, the robots are doing everything and you just do nothing and the billionaires who have those robots, they do this for you and they get nothing in return or like how we there are a billion questions that are unanswered. So anyone coming and speaking of like about these things without having like a strong plan or like uh being able to communicate how we get there, I I can't really take them [clears throat] seriously. On the other side, I think a lot of this like safety thing is uh just these companies being completely irresponsible. It's just insane that they do this type of like harm. They start hacking around and there is like no safety go guard or like no proper safety and then they expect the society to observe that um that wrongdoing. It's not like you shouldn't be expected to, you know, they they've done wrong enough. Like it's insane. Like we talked about the um the mathematical middle field as well. They literally stole every mathematical book, every math book, right? They stole every single paper written on math and everything else. And now they are stealing like the the work from these uh mathematicians and it's it's just like insane that we are in this I I [clears throat] find it difficult to even put it in words. The best I can do is to show you this this video is insanely good uh from Cold Fusion. We we talk about Cold Fusion a lot in the channel. the the videos are amazingly good and this video the last one it it it shows how open AI has been they they stole the guy's work and started uh it's just insane you just watch let's let's be clear [clears throat] they don't claim they stole it his worry was that open AI and this is the worry all along the worry was that they stole his chat logs which apparently Open AAI don't do, but it just so happens to be that they took the exact same very rare and and novel approach to solving this mathematical problem, which was to in in short to disprove the formula that it that turbulence is uh derived on like that the formula that describes turbulence. You've either got to prove that correctly or you've got to disprove that it it it holds shape or something like this, right? How likely is it that [clears throat] they they find this exact solution in this exact same way at the exact same time all the sudden just because Antropic was working on it and not to mention that's it right the whole work the whole like the model doing the work is made from stolen work I mean we kind of like exactly made peace with it as a society but at the same time we haven't yet I mean we shouldn't really, especially as they keep winging about distillation. You know, PewDiePie got banned for distilling the work and it's like, well, hang on, you've stolen our work, so all I'm doing is taking my, you know, material property back and I'm getting banned from it. So, it's just ridiculous. But yeah. [snorts] Yeah. Yeah. Uh, it's all it's all all big mind So, should we uh get on to something more fun? Should we talk about uh crafting apps? Do do you have an intro to this one or should I just intro it and then you can just demo it? Well, my intro was I was just literally thinking about showing the site and saying um all Adobe apps are free now. Something like that. Go for it. Or or do you Yeah. and and then you can do an intro and then we Well, actually, I was gonna say I was gonna for my intro, I was gonna say [snorts] um Adobe has been killed for good this time or something along those lines. Yeah, Adobe. Okay, go on. Adobe is dead. Somebody made all Adobe apps available for free. At least a clone of them and for for real this time. And I installed like Photocraft and I will show you in a second. But as you see this tool is a collection of all Adob tools. Photoshop. Uh this is Adob Illustrator. Uh what is filmcraft? This is Adob Premiier. Premiere. We have Lightroom. We have the PDF craft. Why would [laughter] why would you have to you don't have to pay for a PDF editor anymore? Let's just put it this way. And maybe most importantly and impressively, After Effects. I did not see this one coming. There is a clone of After Effects for you to install for free and obviously the design craft. Let's have a look at just the site and you see like every it's important to note as well these are open source so you can download the code and make changes to the platform so it's not just it's free and available to download it's it's open source it's crazy yeah good point uh this is a clone of Photoshop and it looks just like Photoshop and I installed it and I Look at that. Look at this. This is just like Photoshop. I stopped paying for Adobe maybe 6 months ago and I was only using Photoshop for thumbnails and I just couldn't get away from Photoshop because Photoshop is just I my brain is working in the way Photoshop works and now yeah every shortcuts like every shortcut works the same way. You have like even like these tools. You have that like the magnetic uh tool here. And it it all works the same way. Like I do this I command D to deselect and like everything works the same way. It's the only thing that I couldn't find is like um AI stuff like photo like um Phil fill like what do they call it? um contentaware fill cuz I want cuz I wanted to change it so that it would use uh local AI to do the AI stuff but I just couldn't find it. So unless you can correct me cuz by the way Craft or whatever they're called um Artcraft their bread and butter is actually like Higsfield. It's a it's a platform for doing various AI based uh like creative stuff, you know. So, I thought [snorts] the AI would be core to these experiences to be honest, but I couldn't find it. That's all I was saying. I couldn't find it. It might be in there, but yeah. Yeah. I was thinking about this as well because I looked at the pricing and it's all about AI. It's the credits that you get for their like image and video generation tools. And I think this is just the natural next step that they will introduce this to the apps. So you can use their AI through their subscription in the Adob similar tools. Exactly. So and that would totally make sense. I would love to, you know, have all of that AI capability in a tool like this and maybe be able to do like granular control as well. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, are is there any I'm out of words. Is there anyone paying for ADO right now? Like, let us know in the comments. Why why are you paying for ADOP? I think after this there is literally no other arguments. Why would you pay for ADOP? Um, even [clears throat] if there is, I don't know, maybe Adop Cloud for some big companies needing to have but e even that just use a different cloud service. You don't need Adobe Cloud. Do Do you have any After Effects projects? I don't have them right now. No, because you can see you've opened up a Photoshop file in their Photoshop clone. Um, I want to know how good because here's the thing. I think a lot of people use Adobe because they are almost fearful because the rest of the industry is using it. So they're all just like, you know, I don't trust that this is going to be as good or my plugins and this and that. It's so embedded. But if you I want someone to open up After Effects project in here. That's a really good point. Especially with plugins. I'm not sure. Uh, aren't ad uh Adobe After Effects plugins um essentially just injecting some code? I'm not really sure about that. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Can you Can you search on this page just plugins just to see if plugins appears on this page anywhere? No. Yeah. No. But uh there are expressions. There is real 3D 3D layers with camera depth of field and that that that's really impressive. So it looks like After Effects uh expressions, this is kind of like the uh the stuff that you do with code kind of like automatic stuff that you do. Um and it by the way this all of these they support the the file system from Adobe product. So your other Photoshop PSD file, you can just drop it in this photo app. Same for After Effects. That's kind of like the insane thing that it plugs to your workflow and you're not losing anything. Just download the apps and give it a try. Uh I I installed Photoshop and I now I feel like I have Photoshop. I don't [laughter] I don't have any need for I used Photoia a few times. It's the web version of like it's an open- source web version of Photoshop. It works, but it's not the same as, you know, having the thing on your own machine and it doesn't have all the features. But yeah, now I have Photocraft and it's it looks amazing. It looks amazing and I don't have to learn anything new. Wait, there is there is this like Oh, that's cool. And I I guess as you said this is open source so you can change whatever you need. Maybe the plugin that you are uh that you use so often maybe you can even program that in in a way kind of like adding it being a part of the the app itself maybe integrate it even better. So depending on what you need, that's the beauty of open source especially this age in this age of AI. You can just prompted to do stuff the way you want them to to happen. Do you know you know I I was it was my first contribution towards open source this week. Yeah. Yep. First time. Um made a big zero of it because I didn't I accidentally did it. Uh, basically there's this and I've got a video coming out on this, but it's, you know, dots, you know, grock bot and open air dots and all this sort of stuff. There are open source versions now. And I modified one of them so it could run local models, right? I forked it, did my branch, created a pull request, but didn't notice it was selected to make a pull request to the to the actual product. So I was like, oh So, I just I just left it to see if someone merges it. I don't know. But I've got I've got the fork on my own um my own fork, you know, the the edits on there. So, when the video does get released, you can just download it from from my repo. But yeah, it was just it's just I'm I don't know how this talking about YouTube and stuff like that. I don't I am very much turned on to open source software now because the first thing I think of is like what can I do with it? like what can I how how can I use this as a launchpad to like start creating something that I've always wanted to do. They've done the hard work. They put in all the hours to do that and now I get to make it mine sort of thing. So I'm very clued into open source and I wonder how that content can filter into my channel. I I think this plays into this broader um conversation also around people are right now having it around GTA and the like porting uh PlayStation is almost done by the way. So there are people communities on the internet doing this type of projects. Uh and uh there is this suspicion uh we will probably have GTA the next GTA uh available to play on your PC then the the moment it comes out for PlayStation because by that by then you will be able to like have PlayStation on your computer. And with having this level of like agentic coding, it seems like these ginormous code bases that no human being, not a single person could ever understand now can be delegated to literally thousands of AI agents to understand them and start porting And I suspect the same thing has happened to uh this like craft app. they have they didn't go and like make photo the next Photoshop from scratch. Uh they almost certainly has reverse engineered the entire codebase of Photoshop even though if you have just the file the file was not readable to humans but it is to machine. So that's probably how I'm I'm certainly out of my depth here, but that's what I read about it on Twitter to be specific that this is a reverse engineering uh this has been a reverse engineering project, the same with GTA, the same with um PlayStation and this is something new. This is happening and it seems like every software that exists is going to be reverse engineered and put out as open source because if the code exists in some form, it can be reverse engineered now. Yeah, I watched a video just before the show. Um, what was it called? Hark or something like that. It looked pretty interesting. [snorts] Um, and just from its design because it's not that interesting. It was bas It's basically the same as warm wind. Do you remember that? That operating system. It's just another agent, right? [snorts] And the comments that were coming up were I can just build this myself. Like what's the point in this? And pe like more and more people are getting turned on. And it felt like a very normie video. Do you know what I mean? Like it didn't feel like a developer focused video. It was like a nor and already the normies are talking about, well, I can just make it myself. So yeah, I just switched it off and and yeah, it's um another another just another agent, you know. We didn't we didn't cover Manis 2.0 last week because it's just another agent. Like we are absolutely just entering a world where people are just building their own apps, you know. interesting because yeah I in the video I posted on my own Instagram even though a lot of people were interested some people were like I'm just going to send your video to my codeex and say create this for me and I guess that that's kind of like the the stage we are at uh you can recreate anything somebody does it and then uh you can you can copy it at pretty much no cost. But we don't know where we are going with this. Like we like as an industry we haven't figured it out yet. Uh because if does that mean if my work can be copied at any time? Does that mean I shouldn't do it at the first place? I don't think so. I think I'm still interested in doing cool And if people pay for it, pay me for it, cool. if they want to steal it. I guess I can't stop it. I I you never could stop it in the past and nowadays it's just bit more easy. Well, I was going to I was going to bring back our discussion at the beginning to say like just because those people are in the comments saying they're just going to copy it shouldn't gaslight you into thinking that you shouldn't create it in the first place. Do you know what I mean? Like, yeah, cool, go nuts. But you're never going to be as good. You're never going to be as good as me because I'm the one who is getting nerdy and wants to go deep and understand things and be better. You just want a silver bullet solution to your problems and you're never going to you're never going to be good at what you do. You're going to be average at best. So yeah, screw the haters. Agree. Screw the haters. Screw the haters. Just go nuts. create whatever your heart desires and you can. Yeah. So speaking of creating things yourself and doing uh what you want, ChachiBT and you know OpenAI basically have self-building ondemand apps inside of their platform. They call it uh GPT intelligent UI. Now, unfortunately, we've both used this before the before the show. And which one am I on? I'm on the tweet. And uh I can't get this to work even using their prompts. But if we how how should it look like? Can we see that? Yeah. Well, we're going to go through some examples here. So, their their little intro video here is talking about a bunch of problems where people are trying to figure things out. They're stuck reading a guide. How do I get around San Francisco? There's another one here. Trying to put a bike together or something. Oh, trying to set up a camera equipment and doing this. They're trying to learn something. Gosh, the audio is trying to learn something. Whereas nowadays, we all go to ChachiBT to learn stuff. And what intelligent UI is claud have artifacts but what intelligent UI is it actually tries to understand what it is you're trying to learn and puts together like an interactive UI that is is exactly that on demand apps. So they're trying to understand where the north star is. See um I'm not sure what you mean by web component. It's a It's probably I don't know what they are using, but it's probably just using React spinning up something and yeah. Oh, I'm not sure. I'm not sure from a technology perspective because obviously this works inside of the the app as well, but yeah, they're trying to iframe or something potentially. I I mean, I haven't really thought about what technology it might be using. Um but yeah, they're what is this one? I guess they're trying to understand teach me how to play mahong, right? So, there was a UI. Oh my god, why is it So, then it's generating this UI on the fly to teach them how to do stuff. Here's like a I guess a ping pong thing. That wasn't too interesting. Deeper understanding of visuals. So, this this is a slightly more boring version where um it just shows like inline images to help you understand stuff. We've kind of seen that in the past, to be honest. But yeah, I love this. This one's quite interesting as well actually. Let me share the article that takes you through it. This one tries to get you to help you understand a seven-speed bike. So, this all this UI is apparently being generated on the fly. So, it's really cool. Um, from a from a learning perspective, as I say, I tried to I tried to put a few prompts in. I even tried this this one here, the breakdown design of a sens bike, but I couldn't get it to work. it. They are do open are really guilty of this where they're doing lots of like rolling out of stuff and I'm guessing I just might not have got I might not have got it yet. This one's interesting as well. Look, it builds you a little bill splitter so that you can actually click around and you know do do certain things. I saw another one like a receipt somewhere. Maybe it is in the same area. No, it's not. Um, but yeah, quite a nice way uh quite a nice thing for people who don't immediately think of building apps on their computer. They're literally just going to be in this, we've spoken about it for years to be fair, this master app, Chatbt or Claude just becoming this master app where you just do everything from. And this probably further puts it into people's minds that oh, I can I can just ask it and it will build me a little app. There was one that ripped off an app that I I say ripped off like gosh I I didn't come up with it. I don't think I did. But there [snorts] was someone I'm not sure it was here or the or the video. It might have been the video actually. Um where he's sitting in a room. Oh, it would be this one cuz he's sitting in the room. He's putting the mic together. That one here where he's in the room. Why are you autoplaying audio when I'm muting you? So that sort of thing. I built my brother this app, you know, and I and right now he can just do it in inside of chat GPT because it understands its requests. It's building UI. It's pretty cool. Yeah, that that's that's interesting. I did try it as you mentioned. I didn't get quite the the nice visuals that uh it was promised. But as you see here uh I was like help me with the with the podcast thing and first it did this which is horrendous. It's not like a very interesting UI and then I said use better visuals to explain and then it did this which is interactive interesting. So, uh it is interactive and then I said you uh generate this using intelligent UI and it did quite literally the same thing. And the thing that I didn't get on camera or like recorded this got loaded after it was done after this task was done. It started like you know how the text comes in. the text came in and then there was like an empty box here. This loaded as an empty box. So, it's kind of like I frame I guess or something. So, yeah. So, it is interactive. It is not as cool as the examples that they showed, but yeah. Yeah. Because I I knew because we we I think we showed it like this would have been like last year sometime. I think we showed like uh interactive elements or charts or something. Remember we did the there was a maths equation that it would draw out all the maths and then you could change values and slide it around. So there's always been like an element of UI that gets generated. However, I think this probably takes it a step further by making it almost into an app, you know. I think it's triggered by the idea of learning something though. I don't know. Yeah, that's quite interesting when you say app. It It makes me think if Chad GPT and Claude if they were an operating system, I mean, they'd love it if they were the operating system itself. But imagine where you could have these apps and pin them in your desktop or whatever and reuse them. So from a conversation, you might make an app and then have it locally to reuse it. But uh maybe they will they will add that kind of like some persistent type of like apps similar how we had projects and we had custom GPTs. I think potentially we will have custom apps because people do need the visual. We don't love just reading reading reading. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's a good segue to um claude motion. I think Yeah, I think we should cover claw motion. So basically um this could be the end of After Effects. I think it's not not in its current form, but claw motion is pretty much where this is going. Um so then it was a bit confusing for us when we first loaded it up because we saw this thing build live build live dashboards. Well, actually, no, let me even get the the tweet said about Clawude Motion. Maybe I'll get that up as well. Actually, as you get this, by the way, we will show you some examples like we both have examples of animations made with uh with Claude. So, yeah, some cool stuff. I'm I'm opening mine as you find that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That one was crazy. So Claude dashboards and Claude Motion are in beta today. So he's it's a bit confusing because he's doing all this like all but then you kind of see the all of this stuff animating in. So I thought, oh, this is going to be like Clawude design but Clawude Motion. But no, the intended workflow, the what they keep pushing is this idea of taking a dashboard and then making it into uh a motion piece. So I've got to I've put together here a command AI channel stat thing and it's a dashboard. And if you're going to present this, which you often may have to do inside of your organization, it's much more interesting. I mean, this is pretty good, but it's much more interesting if you can show this as a as a motion piece. So, all I would need to do to take this is to say, turn this into a animation. Mhm. And then that will do its thing. I It did show it as a skill, but there is no skill as you see there. So, I don't know what that's about. Um, bit misleading marketing information. Um, animate the dashboard. There we go. I'm hoping that was it. Anyway, mate, I'm having a pig's ear of uh just video. Did you hear that, by the way? It was um I I I was scrolling around on another tab and then a video started playing m uh playing audio. No, I didn't hear anything around with that. Good. Good. [snorts] Um let's see what's going on here. Animating existent dashboard. So Oh, no. I don't want that. Do I? Jesus Christ. Yeah. Let Let's see. Did Did you make it before the call? Like did you make a No, no, no, no. I was going to No, I was going to show the I was going to show the um actual process. As you're working on that, my chat is working on creating the 3D version of what I asked it to. So, maybe I can show that and you stitch it to the previous 3D version. Oh, go for it. Go for it. Go on then. Yeah, like it's it's still working. So, uh let's see when it finishes. I will uh let you know and maybe you can stitch it to the to the other video. I'm just it's kind of dumb. Uh but I have my video to show. Okay. After after you made that. So yeah. Okay. I'm just going to use my voice to uh turn this into an animation using Clawude Motion. So for people who are just joining and watching, we have a few people on Instagram joining. Claude uh introduced Claude dashboards and motion and with that you can make visuals and you can create video uh video based on that claude response was why claude [snorts] motion isn't available on your account in the session so I can't make the what does that even mean? Maybe maybe I need to use a new session. Maybe I'll need to do it in the app, not on the because that's on the web. Obviously, I was and see I'm doing it in the app right now. So, that came back with me and text rather than Oh, sorry. Hang on. Hang on. It's annoying. Okay. So, uh see let's see if it comes. Uh if not, that's fine. Yeah, I checked again. Clawed Motion still isn't available on your account. Only formats I can create here are dashboard design systems and I can't add motion myself. Closest I can do is build the animation as a standalone page. Yeah. So, okay. Well, that's this is actually starting to get really faking annoying now. Um yeah, because announce something. We they keep announcing something and then you go to use it and it's it's like rolling out or this or that. How annoying is this? Apple are doing it as well. The announcement. Yeah. Yeah, it's Oh my god, it's really peed me off right now. You You're making a making me embarrassing me in front of all my friends, Claude. Jesus Christ. Uh Apple is like we are inviting you to this event. That's kind of like in itself an announcement. And then you go to the event and the event itself is an announcement and the thing is not available. Once it once it's available, then they start like pumping it and it's like, okay, now it's kind of like the third wave of the announcement. [snorts] Anyway, so um this is this is intelligent UI. I guess we tried the other ones and this is kind of like the best I could get out of it to teach me something. Uh some buttons that don't even like work. What What the hell is this? The buttons. It's not. It should be buttons, but yeah, I guess it's not as intelligent. That's kind of like the point here. Maybe it will get better. Maybe it will get better. Yeah. Anyway, uh should I show my video? Yeah. Yeah, go for it. Yeah. So, you couldn't get uh So, you couldn't get uh Claude Motion working, but I did something else. So, I was working on this component and I was just like, what if I ask Claude to take this component because it has like access to the actual code uh on my machine and make a video uh off of it. And it did. And here are the videos. It made multiple versions. The first version was pretty amazing, but I did a few refinements. And you're ready. This is the I'm not ready for I'm not ready. I'm scared. Nice. Can you hear the music a little bit? It's like a ding ding ding ding. Yeah. Slow-mo music coming in. That's great. So, so last year or maybe a few months ago, we talked about demonstrating complex ideas using HTML. This takes it a step further by having that, you know, research an article and saying turn it into a turning into a motion project. So, was this was this using the remotion skill? I didn't specify specify anything, but I don't think so. I I think it didn't. I think it just did everything with just JavaScript. Uh so the first version was this. It was a bit too much uh too much text and whatnot, but the idea was still good. And then I just took [snorts] things out and made things a bit better in a few prompts. And towards the end there there was a there's a video. Now I can share the video. I don't think it's like going to go viral or anything, but I think the video explains this component pretty well. It's pretty good. So I've just I've just in Claude I've just said create an MP4 for this. And so let's see. You might have seen in the comments I put in Claude Motion Beta team and enterprise plans. So, it's it's only for team of enterprise plans, but just as you're doing here, you know, you might still be able to create it. Um, yeah, in Claude, it's just using a different engine under the hood. I don't know. But, you know, um, in this article as well, by the way, I did notice this that Claude design has moved. They've said it's moved to artifacts. Uh, Claude design added URL. um stays at claw design, migrate design systems. Yeah. On the artifacts and I I saw that today I created the graphic today. In the same way claw design has its own thing like is this going into a way where After Effects is they're just going to attempt to to build a UI on top of these motion graphics that enable you to I don't know really. Again, it's telling a story so it's slightly different than a than a static UI. But yeah, like I think these graphics and and and these animations are becoming really really usable, especially if you've got a design system underneath. Um I agree. I've created a design system from my my own branding. Um which now lives on a URL on my website. So whenever I need to create graphics, I have created a design system skill. But if say I'm on um [clears throat] uh chat GBT where that design system skill doesn't live, just point it at my website and it's able to read and understand the CSS and make things in that style. I've created so many motion graphics over the last few days for my videos just with these design system skills. Um so if you combine that with your motion graphics, you can have something really on trend uh on on brand. Yeah. Yeah. Um I'm I'm thinking to I'm I'm thinking all in terms of UI primitives nowadays. So for anything I do I build uh UI primitives which is kind of to me I I need to do better reading on it but to me it's kind of like between a bare minimum style guide and a fullon design a full-on UI system like UI primitive kind of like for me it's kind of in between. you have the the molecules essentially, the molecules that build your UI. And I I think that is that is right now for me working really well because I anything I do, I try to refine it and then have them as to be added to my style guide as UI primitives. So yeah. Yeah, it's again it goes into that being nerdy about it as well, like you you understand this at a nuance level rather than just sort everything out. You're going to get get better results. For sure. Yeah, for sure. Um I'm just I'm just rendering my video out, but it looks like it's just taking slides and it's not making a uh what do they call this? What you've got? Um they call it like um a buzz reel or something like that. Yeah, mine's just mine's just rubbish. Oh, here it is. Um, you want to show us? Yeah, I'm just adding before presenting screen, remove the other media from the stream. There we go. Add to stage. There we go. So, you can just see it's just it's just a boring slideshow animation. Yeah, it's hype. Hype real is what they call what yours looks like, whereas mine's super super boring. So I think um uh Claude Motion it it takes this to the next level, right? It's not it's not just boring animations. It tries to actually um apply some level of taste or some level of uh yeah interact uh not interactivity but um graphical kind of uh explainers. I don't think this is at the end of the day anything too much beyond an MD file. Like there is obviously the infrastructure for them to build in the app to be able to kind of like present that and have it like have the buttons and whatnot, the UI for these videos to be created in the app. But in the be behind the scene, it's just probably Opus being presented with an MD file and then probably a machine and then whatever you had on that dashboard. And it's kind of like take that what's important in it, decide what's important and then create a story and animate it and animate it with these like specific kind of like set of skills uh to make it to make it good. Uh, and this is what I kind of dislike about using these kind of tools. I have to give it a try and see. But I I notice I'm always going back to the bare stuff that I can have more control over. So, I can do it however I want. So, I can change stuff how however I want. Whoa, that was loud this time. Are you feeding him more? Getting closer. Yeah. Oh, it's getting closer. It's good. Yeah, his uh automatic feeder is here. Once he eat, I will show it to the audience before we go. Okay. Wow. We are um steaming through this week's episode cuz we've got Tesla's Tesla, which by the way, literally just found this 5 minutes before the show. Uh the cringe continues with Tesla have rebranded their AI division as Tesla Super Intelligence. Now that is Elon Musk getting his nose right up into Donald Trump's butthole, isn't it really? But yeah, it was it was AI Tesla AI just just to it was Tesla because I was going to say they still have Tesla. They still have this but this is Tesla super intelligence. They read. No, go back. Go back to Tesla, please. [laughter] This is so dumb. You read the bio. Electric vehicles, giant batteries, and solar, AI, and robotics. AI, the forbidden word. Oh, I see. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because you can say this. Yeah. So, yeah, I wanted to say that. I wanted to show that. So, Tesla is now the enemy officially until they change that word. Yeah. She's so dumb. How can [laughter] how how can we be living in this timeline? By the way, this is this is like when you learn a tiny bit about history, you see how fascistic behavior is like like a lot of it is around changing language. It's kind of like in a way of changing you start to change like how people think. And this is just a dumb version of it. It's just super dumb because it just doesn't matter. is by by the way by def definition categorically it's still AI because it's artificial intelligence like by definition you cannot get rid of it and changing that just tells me these people don't even understand the basics of language. They don't understand even or pretend to not understand the basics of how we categorize and define the world around us. It's it is artificial intelligence. What whatever else you want to call it, it is still artificial in opposed to we being in this flesh, you know, you can't change that. It's just Yeah. Um Yeah. Ridiculousness. Absolute ridiculousness. I yeah I don't know AI the thing is AI is so baked into like culture right now we've been AI is not a new thing like I don't know how many people are brand new to it but AI is not a new thing we've been talking about AI in science fiction for probably nearly hundred years now do you know what I mean like yeah why change it now like saying that it's the ladder of um what's it called um they they they have to they have to add to the fire. They kind of like have to add to the sensitivity of it. And I hate to say it again, but we are in this bubble and they have to keep feeding it and saying [snorts] like taking it will take your jobs, it will hack the government, it will do this and do that. I think it's all the the same play that they are trying to do to just make the stock market go up and up and up. That's that's their next move. And there will be a move after this. They they even like bringing AI to the space. I feel like all of this is just trying to add to the level of absurdity in a way, but also to to keep it on top. So, it's not intelligent. It is super intelligent. And tomorrow it's going to be Ultra Pro Max intelligent. Ultra Pro. Yeah, I was going to say mega. Ultra Mega Max. Yeah, Ultra Mega Max is good. Yeah. Well, [snorts] uh, yeah, we have a question. How did you make the elastic toggles? AI. Um, AI. [laughter] However, I'm glad you asked. Go for However, there is an article uh that I'm finishing and I will launch everything where I will go through the entire like levels of how this is made and you can read it for yourself and even copy paste it into your UI. But I I I'm trying to target a middle ground somehow or like a sweet spot. Uh I want to say a sweet spot of teaching how this was made without making it boring or like too much technical. Uh so yeah, article coming up. Just stay tuned for that. It's kind of like funny you said AI. I am doing this with AI. Uh I'm even like writing the email newsletter sequencing and all of that with AI. But anything I I'm I'm trying to create a mindset and like trying to make up my mind and you know the philosophy behind all of what I do. I want to make sure anything I uh put out there if it's the caption of my video or the video it well the video itself not anytime soon but articles like this I want to proofread them and I think this is not a crazy thing to say that the output even if it's from AI I want to proofread everything and then be like yeah I'm okay with that or like change it and I think not enough people are doing this. I feel like I'm being fed AI uh output way too often, especially on LinkedIn. I hate LinkedIn nowadays. It I feel like any that the every second thing I read is AI output from somebody who has probably not even read it. Uh it's just an agent sending it. Yeah, I um I agree. And I think that um last week or whatever I mentioned that I'm getting way more into writing and reading and really reading things like rather than glazing over and skimming over things. This question here, how did you make it? This in this day and age, how you make something is is irrelevant. It's the answer is always going to be the same. It's it's made with AI. But it's the the iteration, it's the review, it's the idea that's all going to be in here, right? The thought process. The thought process, right? Yeah. The why. So, it's not about how anymore. The how is is done is completed. Like the answer is going to be. Especially if you come to a channel called Command AI, how did you do that? Very rarely are you going to turn around and say, well, we built it in this and that. like you know these edits as an example they I I will explore editing this channel with AI right now I edit them in final cut but most things we do now touching AI doesn't mean to say we haven't paid our dues in designing by hand inside of Figma or or writing code inside of VS Code we've done that but but the how is is always going to be AI and if we can and and this goes back to your question you had last week or your concern about how we bridge the gap. If we can be more clear about how, if we can answer the question more clearly about how than just answering with AI, then let us know like is do you want to know [snorts] whether it was clawed or whether it was GLM 5.3? Do you want to know whether it was in the CLI or whether it was whatever? Because for us that stuff I think we are um we take it for granted. We just think yes AI you know from my comments it does from my comments and the DMs I'm getting for these stuff you are like on point. Do you want to know the prompts? Do you want to how can we be more clear rather than using AI because we absolutely understand we take it for granted but if there's more clarity we can give then we we can do that but we're just we're just yeah from it's too simple for us to think any more low level without being you know I I do tend to tell people well just you know do it with AI but I think people don't know the right thing to ask or Maybe one thing that I'm trying to do through these articles that I'm writing uh I want to also teach the terminology uh because I I think that just saying 3JS we take it for granted and that I I believe this changes the whole output by a lot just just using that word or saying sure um versal vers or you know just knowing that versal exists if we take it all for granted or next for example. Let's be clear though, we can't explain every single like word. Like we we don't expect a baseline, but we also cannot spend we we'd be here all day if we were explaining every single acronym, every single tool, every single library, every single you we it just physically is impossible. So come along with us for the ride of picking up these things. Use the chat if you don't understand something. Ask us directly what is 3JS and we'll happily answer it. But we can't really be held and if we don't know we don't know what people are struggling with. So more questions the better. And maybe maybe this is your cue to get the frigin community up and running or we have some sort of dashboard or questionnaire or something. It's like drop your questions here and we will answer them. We try and go through comments. I mean, have you have you been through the comments section much recently? I don't Yeah. Yeah, pretty much all the time. Maybe I don't always answer, but I do read them all always. Uh yeah, the community I should I should finish it. Uh I have a Discord. I made this Discord, but I I need to proofread the rules and pretty much that and then we we launch the community. Uh if you like it, obviously I'm going to add you here and then we'll do something about it with it. Um maybe we can maybe we can do the pre-shows here so people can join maybe. Yeah, because or even after the show. Yeah, because we started earlier today because what normally happens is we go really deep in conversation. Maybe the fact that we are offline fosters a bit more of a a vulnerability that we can be a bit more, you know, vulnerable. Uh but we'll try and continue to be a little maybe we can do this again for like 3 weeks. see if that level of vulnerability fosters the more we do it. Or it might just be that we go on Discord before the show, you get to watch us prepare, and then we go live, you know, afterwards. But [snorts] um yeah, let us know in the comments. Let us know in the comments. Let us know in the comments. And and love to know. Yeah. And speaking of which, let's just go let's just go through some comments here. Like I have literally no idea. Can we close that? There we go. How do people feel about craft CMS? Right. Craft CMS is pro a PHP um CMS that is comparable to WordPress. The thing is it is a it's very much driven by referrals. So companies are paid. The more people they get on Craft CMS, the more that that company gets paid. And it's a bit of a pyramid scheme. it it it does the job. I don't think it's open source. I'm not too sure. Well, it has to be actually because it's all PHP based, but um I don't think we're concerned with technologies, what the technologies are these days. I know we mentioned 3JS, but like the technologies don't really matter. like ask the AI what CMS is best for this project or what I've been what I've been telling people is I'm less concerned with the code that it takes to implement a CMS as an example. I'm more interested in the UI dashboard experience of setting up and doing things. So I got really good at understanding Versel. So everything I produced would go on Versel because I just know my way around the dashboard. Now I'm trying to learn um Cloudflare because they don't they're a lot of their stuff is free, let's be honest. So I know that's not a CMS, but the idea is the the dashboard uh understanding dashboard allows me to be more in tune with it. We used what what CMS did we use for our command AI website? I've forgotten. Um did you use the one that Figma bought? No, Payload is my go-to for my personal website. I I really do like Payload. Uh if I go I'm just on my GitHub behind the scenes here. If I go command Okay. Um it is agents strappy strappy is strappy is the CMS we use for our commander it's too complicated for me you know the interface and whatever so I'm less concerned with the the technologies nowadays I'm more concerned with how easy these things are to use so that is my answer on craft craft CMS. How do you feel about the how do how does the community feel? Um I'm looking for qu do you know what they should have a question section here, shouldn't they? They should have a question. I hate the comment tool from YouTube. YouTube is awful. You guys are getting a behind thescenes look at how awful and it tries to be smart about it. Whereas I always go to newest. I always uncclick unresponded cuz if you uh comment on something from months and months and months back, it's just not we're not going to see it at all. Yeah. Um I'm just looking for questions. By the way, here I'm looking for question marks. If you don't use a question mark, I'm going to I'm going to go over it. I'm not going to see it, unfortunately. Um, always entertaining blah blah. Called out. Oh, there's a question mark. He doesn't want to read a couple of paragraphs. How did this Theo manage to even learn programming in the first place? Well, he's brain rotted, isn't he? Um, okay. Well, the point is, I thought it would been nice to to go over questions. If you've got questions, let us know. We'll absolutely go over them or try and answer them. But um yeah, without knowing we can't bridge this gap of how we do things and and all the rest of it. Yeah, that's kind of it. Yeah, that's what what do you say at the end? That's what we all um No, you say something. What on this show? Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's all we got time for. Ah, yeah. [laughter] Is that all we got time for? Are we wrapping it up? Yeah. Um, I'm wrapping it. I I would like to Cool. get some stuff done. Some clients are knocking my door. Oh, okay. Cool. Well, that is all we've got time for. Make sure you like, subscribe. 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